(转载)这是枪的图片,看不太清楚。但是仔细看看还真像是毛瑟的action,加了个便宜镜子

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#21 Re: (转载)这是枪的图片,看不太清楚。但是仔细看看还真像是毛瑟的action,加了个便宜镜子

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Short answer: No. For a purely private, in-state sale in Texas, there’s no legal requirement for the seller to record the buyer’s info if no FFL is used and no Form 4473 is involved.

What you still must follow (even without records):

Don’t transfer to people you know are prohibited (e.g., certain felons, minors, someone under a protective order, or anyone intoxicated), and don’t make interstate transfers without an FFL. See Texas Penal Code §46.06 and federal rules.

Good (optional) best practices:

Bill of sale / basic receipt (names, date, firearm description, price) kept for your own files.

Check Texas residency & age (e.g., TX DL/LTC) and trust your instincts.

Consider using a local FFL to facilitate the transfer if you want a background check and paper trail. The ATF publishes a short “Best Practices” brochure for private sellers.

Texas also has no general firearm registry (NFA items are different).

Not legal advice; just the general rules with sources.


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#22 Re: (转载)这是枪的图片,看不太清楚。但是仔细看看还真像是毛瑟的action,加了个便宜镜子

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Here’s how it works in Texas (and everywhere in the U.S.—this is federal law):

Who keeps the 4473? The FFL keeps it, not the buyer and not ATF (while the business is active). Completed Forms 4473 must be kept at the licensed premises (or in an approved electronic system) and be available for ATF inspection.

How long? Until the FFL goes out of business. In 2022 ATF removed the old “20-year” limit. Now, 4473s (including denied/cancelled transactions) are retained for the life of the license. Paper 4473s older than 20 years may be stored in a separate warehouse that’s treated as part of the premises.

If the FFL dies, closes, or goes bankrupt (and actually discontinues business): All required records—4473s and the A&D “bound book”—must be sent to ATF within 30 days of discontinuance. They go to ATF’s Out-of-Business Records Center (National Tracing Center). ATF provides the address and allows delivery to a local ATF office as well. (If the business continues under the same active license, the records stay with the FFL.)

Texas-specific note: Texas doesn’t add extra 4473 retention rules for dealers; the federal rules above control.

If you want, I can also point you to ATF’s page on discontinuing an FFL and the latest 4473 instructions so you have the official language handy.

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#23 Re: (转载)这是枪的图片,看不太清楚。但是仔细看看还真像是毛瑟的action,加了个便宜镜子

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magagop 写了: 昨天 19:27

這只是第一任槍主,聯邦肯定沒有數據庫保存4473。如果是私人買賣或者贈予,我記得德州不強制要求通過FFL。下一任槍主是誰,賣家不需要保留記錄。4473如果在FFL賣家有記錄,如果FFL賣家破產了我現在不知道記錄還如何保管,ATF肯定沒有記錄。我買槍的槍店破產關門了幾家。

德州我记得可以私下转让

也就是除了这两人之间,无其他证据。

所以我有些朋友会用其他方式保存在转让记录,怕未来出事麻烦。

其他州要看州,这个真不清楚了。

比如加州只能通过ffl转,转让证据就比较完备。

但第一次那个4473上必须填写的序列号,你们怎么理解,随意。

投诉也随意,呵呵。

Shame on you!

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#24 Re: (转载)这是枪的图片,看不太清楚。但是仔细看看还真像是毛瑟的action,加了个便宜镜子

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oldestghost 写了: 昨天 20:44

德州我记得可以私下转让

也就是除了这两人之间,无其他证据。

所以我有些朋友会用其他方式保存在转让记录,怕未来出事麻烦。

其他州要看州,这个真不清楚了。

比如加州只能通过ffl转,转让证据就比较完备。

但第一次那个4473上必须填写的序列号,你们怎么理解,随意。

投诉也随意,呵呵。

Shame on you!

德州私人買賣保存記錄不是必須,德州沒有連帶民事責任,不會被反槍訴棍糾纏,德州上億槍枝,管不過來。

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