肯塔基同事群炸了，又枪击案了

[fortyNiner]

又 my ass. Your imagination is no evidence.

"The Bluegrass State passed a law in 2019 removing the provisions that mandated state gun owners pass a background check if they were going to going to conceal carry their weapon. Under the law, most adults over the age of 21 can purchase and carry a firearm and take them to most places in Kentucky without any license.
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Kentucky law does not have any provisions preventing firearms in several locations such as hospitals, houses of worship, sports arenas, casinos, polling places and banks."

--https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/ ... 1#98503015

又是禁枪区。绝大部分的公共场合枪击案发生在禁枪区。取消禁枪区，挽救无辜生命！

[jhe123]

There are always some states with higher crime rates and some with lower, it is the average that speaks. Just like even in a shithole city, there are always some law-abiding citizens, but you cannot use that to argue that this city is not a shithole. It is the average crime rate in the city, not just a few good guys, that makes the city a shithole. You cannot find a good neighborhood in Oakland, like the Oakland hills, and use it as an example to argue that Oakland is a very safe city. You look at the overall crime rates to say if it is safe. Similarly, the average much-higher homicide rates, much higher violent crime rates, and much higher property rates of the states with highest gun ownership of many years indicate the undeniable correlation between guns and crime rates.
You sounded proud of owning guns, that's why I brought up Salvador Ramos. So are you proud simply because you own guns and I don't? Something that even Ramos could own working in Denny's(?) can make you proud?
I am not talking about how to use gun for self defense, I simply points out, with reliable data from CDC, that using guns for self-defense is very ineffective. How was I not consistent? Data indicates that, that's all. I did not make up the data, and you ARE NOT able to deny it.

呵呵， 只有对统计学近乎无知的人，才会把不同州犯罪率拿来平均然后按一个单一因素作比较。如果按你这种幼稚的做法，我可以给你一个更无法辩驳的数据：白人的平均拥枪率远高于黑人，但是黑人被谋杀的比率远高于白人，所以这个数据无可辩驳的证明了拥枪可以提高民众的安全。

合法公民只要愿意都可以买枪，在美国是极为普通的一件事。所以有枪有个啥好骄傲的？呵呵， 你这想法真是搞笑啊。还是说因为你胆小不敢用枪，所以潜意识里羡慕崇拜那些用枪干出大（坏）事的人？LOL。。。

有数据显示所有遭遇犯罪的民众中，用枪自卫的民众受伤害的比例最低，低于其它任何手段，也低于放弃抵抗配合罪犯的选项。

[jhe123]

又 my ass. Your imagination is no evidence.

"The Bluegrass State passed a law in 2019 removing the provisions that mandated state gun owners pass a background check if they were going to going to conceal carry their weapon. Under the law, most adults over the age of 21 can purchase and carry a firearm and take them to most places in Kentucky without any license.
...
Kentucky law does not have any provisions preventing firearms in several locations such as hospitals, houses of worship, sports arenas, casinos, polling places and banks."

--https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/ ... 1#98503015

哈哈，你是一而再再而三的证明自己不懂装懂。州法不禁止银行里带枪，不等于银行自己不可以禁止带枪。而这家银行就是禁止自己员工带枪的。枪手自己也是员工，所以很清楚这家银行就是个无枪区。

[jhe123]

是啊，机场飞机上都该让好人持枪

装疯卖傻有意思么？如果所有的禁枪区都能做到机场保安的水平，我不反对任何禁枪区。但要只是立块牌子贴个告示就完事的禁枪区，只要傻逼才会相信里面的人会是安全的。

[fortyNiner]

Right.
Find a few cigarette smokers who live long lives, and then claim smoking does not cause bad health.

You are not 胆小, no, better say you have BIG mouth. You need your guns to be emboldened, how 胆小 are you?

>>有数据显示所有遭遇犯罪的民众中，用枪自卫的民众受伤害的比例最低，低于其它任何手段，也低于放弃抵抗配合罪犯的选项。
You just cannot deny the fact/data that states with higher gun ownership have higher homicide rates, higher violent crime rates, and higher property rates. The rest is just your wishful thinking.

呵呵， 只有对统计学近乎无知的人，才会把不同州犯罪率拿来平均然后按一个单一因素作比较。如果按你这种幼稚的做法，我可以给你一个更无法辩驳的数据：白人的平均拥枪率远高于黑人，但是黑人被谋杀的比率远高于白人，所以这个数据无可辩驳的证明了拥枪可以提高民众的安全。

合法公民只要愿意都可以买枪，在美国是极为普通的一件事。所以有枪有个啥好骄傲的？呵呵， 你这想法真是搞笑啊。还是说因为你胆小不敢用枪，所以潜意识里羡慕崇拜那些用枪干出大（坏）事的人？LOL。。。

有数据显示所有遭遇犯罪的民众中，用枪自卫的民众受伤害的比例最低，低于其它任何手段，也低于放弃抵抗配合罪犯的选项。

[fortyNiner]

If you really believe guns can save your life, carry one so that others cannot see or notice it. After all, your life is much more important than your job. Plus, there is no way for a business to enforce it when customers conceal carry them.

哈哈，你是一而再再而三的证明自己不懂装懂。州法不禁止银行里带枪，不等于银行自己不可以禁止带枪。而这家银行就是禁止自己员工带枪的。枪手自己也是员工，所以很清楚这家银行就是个无枪区。

[xiaotuzi]

Shooter现场直播的Livestream的视频有人看到吗？

[jhe123]

Right.
Find a few cigarette smokers who live long lives, and then claim smoking does not cause bad health.

You are not 胆小, no, better say you have BIG mouth. You need your guns to be emboldened, how 胆小 are you?

>>有数据显示所有遭遇犯罪的民众中，用枪自卫的民众受伤害的比例最低，低于其它任何手段，也低于放弃抵抗配合罪犯的选项。
You just cannot deny the fact/data that states with higher gun ownership have higher homicide rates, higher violent crime rates, and higher property rates. The rest is just your wishful thinking.

呵呵，我给的数据是美国两大族裔整体的比较，比起你刻意选择几个州来比较的数据要全面权威多了。

枪对我来说就是极为普通的一件事，从来没把它当成啥了不起的玩意儿。只有你这种自己胆小如鼠不敢碰枪的人，说起枪来才会觉得是天大的事情。

你的数据比起我的数据，权威性全面性都差的远，不值一提。

[jhe123]

If you really believe guns can save your life, carry one so that others cannot see or notice it. After all, your life is much more important than your job. Plus, there is no way for a business to enforce it when customers conceal carry them.

没想到你居然会鼓吹故意违背公司的安全规则。看来你不仅胆小如鼠，而且品行也有欠缺。LOL。。。