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#1 Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

发表于 : 2025年 1月 28日 23:01
random88world
Some interesting slides
https://github.com/yong-yao/quantum-com ... lexity.pdf

Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

What is computing? Now we have Turing machine as the answer of this question and we believe it is the right answer. We turned this belief into Church-Turing thesis, which says that Turing machine can simulate all computing that we can physically implement.

Then how efficient is Turing machine? One of the most amazing discovery in computer science is NP-complete problems. Can Turing machine resolve NP-complete problems efficiently? This is one of the most challenge problems in our human intelligence. Until now we have not proven any computing model is more efficient (exponential speedup) than Turing machine. We turned this fact into strong Church-Turing thesis which says all Turning equivalent models -- which can be physically implemented -- is as efficient as Turing machine.

Quantum computer can factor integer exponentially faster than the best know classic algorithm. But we have not proved that the best classic algorithm is the best we can do. Can quantum computing break strong Church-Turing thesis? Until now we don't know. And people in computational complexity field believe the answer is NO. They believe quantum computing cannot resolve NP-complete problems efficiently.

Quantum physics can help. We have Peter Shor's algorithm and Grove's algorithm. Also, most recently we have MIP*=RE. Is entanglement not computable? If yes, we may be able to use it to separate P from PSPACE which should be a big achievement in computational complexity theory.

Some people think computing as a physical process and we should find its limit from physical laws. One very interesting view is the way around. We can try to valid physics theory from computational complexity point and turn strong Church-Turing these as a physic principle. Any physic theory that violates it should not be considered as a valid physic theory.

Why NP?=P is so hard? Yes, it is hard because people tried all kind of ways but still cannot get the mystery of it. It is deeply related to the way how our human reasoning.

Infinite caused trouble to our human couple of times in the history. Each time we resolve the trouble we have deeper understand of our human intelligence.

Are halting problem and P vs NP the troubles that infinity causes to the way we do reasoning?

For details, ref to following link to get the slides. A Tour to Computational Complexity Theory Perspective: Classic and Quantum

Gihub link https://github.com/yong-yao/quantum-com ... lexity.pdf

#2 Re: Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

发表于 : 2025年 1月 29日 05:46
forecasting
random88world 写了: 2025年 1月 28日 23:01 Some interesting slides
https://github.com/yong-yao/quantum-com ... lexity.pdf

Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

What is computing? Now we have Turing machine as the answer of this question and we believe it is the right answer. We turned this belief into Church-Turing thesis, which says that Turing machine can simulate all computing that we can physically implement.

Then how efficient is Turing machine? One of the most amazing discovery in computer science is NP-complete problems. Can Turing machine resolve NP-complete problems efficiently? This is one of the most challenge problems in our human intelligence. Until now we have not proven any computing model is more efficient (exponential speedup) than Turing machine. We turned this fact into strong Church-Turing thesis which says all Turning equivalent models -- which can be physically implemented -- is as efficient as Turing machine.

Quantum computer can factor integer exponentially faster than the best know classic algorithm. But we have not proved that the best classic algorithm is the best we can do. Can quantum computing break strong Church-Turing thesis? Until now we don't know. And people in computational complexity field believe the answer is NO. They believe quantum computing cannot resolve NP-complete problems efficiently.

Quantum physics can help. We have Peter Shor's algorithm and Grove's algorithm. Also, most recently we have MIP*=RE. Is entanglement not computable? If yes, we may be able to use it to separate P from PSPACE which should be a big achievement in computational complexity theory.

Some people think computing as a physical process and we should find its limit from physical laws. One very interesting view is the way around. We can try to valid physics theory from computational complexity point and turn strong Church-Turing these as a physic principle. Any physic theory that violates it should not be considered as a valid physic theory.

Why NP?=P is so hard? Yes, it is hard because people tried all kind of ways but still cannot get the mystery of it. It is deeply related to the way how our human reasoning.

Infinite caused trouble to our human couple of times in the history. Each time we resolve the trouble we have deeper understand of our human intelligence.

Are halting problem and P vs NP the troubles that infinity causes to the way we do reasoning?

For details, ref to following link to get the slides. A Tour to Computational Complexity Theory Perspective: Classic and Quantum

Gihub link https://github.com/yong-yao/quantum-com ... lexity.pdf
这长篇大论的,是啥?哲学探讨?

#3 Re: Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

发表于 : 2025年 1月 29日 09:34
random88world
The last few slides shined some point of views of human intelligence and may help us to understand AI and its current level.

#4 Re: Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

发表于 : 2025年 1月 29日 10:23
forecasting
random88world 写了: 2025年 1月 29日 09:34 The last few slides shined some point of views of human intelligence and may help us to understand AI and its current level.
唉,好吧。我就不相信 有 人能定义清楚人的智能

#5 Re: Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

发表于 : 2025年 1月 29日 18:41
random88world
We may define intelligence as efficiently expressing from information point of view. So far we have barely or not see new knowledge created by AI. We have some kind of deep understanding of our reasoning(formal) but there could be something new in Deep learning and Big data which could indicate that emergence could be one of the core components of intelligence.

If we can build AI with emergence then AI technology will be in next level.

#6 Re: Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

发表于 : 2025年 1月 29日 19:25
forecasting
random88world 写了: 2025年 1月 29日 18:41 We may define intelligence as efficiently expressing from information point of view. So far we have barely or not see new knowledge created by AI. We have some kind of deep understanding of our reasoning(formal) but there could be something new in Deep learning and Big data which could indicate that emergence could be one of the core components of intelligence.

If we can build AI with emergence then AI technology will be in next level.
真是哲学,又来了emergence。

最初提emergence的那物理学家像个玩名词的

#7 Re: Computational Complexity: Classic and Quantum

发表于 : 2025年 1月 31日 21:25
random88world
We pretty much characteristized human intelligence from computing point of view. We may classify intelligence as oracle. The famous P vs NP is essentially asking if it is the same hard to find the solution of a problem as to verify a given solution.

A huge amount of NP-complete problems found in almost all areas of our human activities. Efficiently finding answers to these problems almost for sure will be considered as AI. Essentially P vs NP is asking efficient searching algorithms exists or not. "Guessing" is just oracle and in our human experience ''smart guess' usually are core part of our creativities.

Formalizing some intuitive concepts or philosophy concepts usually are core step fundamental progress. For example, formal definitions of computing, entropy, randomness and even more basic ones like real numbers and infinite.

From math point of view we at lease know following about the basic of AI
1. There are complete and solid formal systems which means there are algorithms solving all problems.
2. But if a formal system complex enough (including natural number) there is no such algorithm.
3. Any reasonable function can be approximated by simple neutral network. This gives the theoretic basic of Deep Learning.

But there could be something real new as following:
With super computing power and bid data we are able to build system big and complex enough to exhibit emergences which may surprise us.

So it is very fruitful to formalize some philosophy concepts.