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厉害，Q3 试产，明年计划上市。

厉害华为，估计是它为主投资的新凯来公司和所有中国相关合作企业的杰作

这下ASML 傻眼

恭喜耗子不用去中国帮忙了

https://wccftech.com/china-in-house-euv ... n-q3-2025/

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DoggyCapital Here's Your Cookie!
Newbie
42 minutes ago
If you believe that China is successfully developing an EUV lithography machine, you know nothing about lithography machines.

They can't even build their own high end DUV machines you idiots... they're currently trying to make domestic immersion machines to make 28nm which would be impressive.

Comments section here is full of mouth breathing tards who I'm shocked don't choke on their own tongues - you guys know nothing about this industry.

这不就是deepseek出现前美帝ai圈里流行的说辞么

deepseek一出，全哑巴了，就像今天的河北老鼠@hhcare

datada 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 10:11 不过狗资本网友发表了审慎留言 -
DoggyCapital Here's Your Cookie!
Newbie
42 minutes ago
If you believe that China is successfully developing an EUV lithography machine, you know nothing about lithography machines.

They can't even build their own high end DUV machines you idiots... they're currently trying to make domestic immersion machines to make 28nm which would be impressive.

Comments section here is full of mouth breathing tards who I'm shocked don't choke on their own tongues - you guys know nothing about this industry.

弃婴千枝 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 10:14 这不就是deepseek出现前美帝ai圈里流行的说辞么

deepseek一出，全哑巴了，就像今天的河北老鼠@hhcare

ASML啥时解禁EUV光刻机。

datada 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 10:11 不过狗资本网友发表了审慎留言 -
DoggyCapital Here's Your Cookie!
Newbie
42 minutes ago
If you believe that China is successfully developing an EUV lithography machine, you know nothing about lithography machines.

They can't even build their own high end DUV machines you idiots... they're currently trying to make domestic immersion machines to make 28nm which would be impressive.

Comments section here is full of mouth breathing tards who I'm shocked don't choke on their own tongues - you guys know nothing about this industry.

我差 还在装修它井里的家啊

耗逼卖国无门

这个doggycapital一看就是老逼将， 麻痹的老逼将的术语贼溜

sanguan 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 10:52 这个doggycapital一看就是老逼将， 麻痹的老逼将的术语贼溜

的确。自己也知道，所以起名“狗资本”。不避嫌自己是狗粮一族。

这个评论的老兄蛮懂技术的。中国人的确聪明，做出来的机器能耗小，将来的产品价格卷死ASML

FLASHLIGHT VS SPARK

ASML Laser-Produced Plasma (LPP) Method

This method is like using a powerful flashlight to shine on a mirror ball coated with tiny droplets. The flashlight (a high-energy laser) hits the droplets (liquid tin), turning them into a glowing mist (plasma). This glowing mist scatters light (EUV) all over the room. However, the flashlight needs to be incredibly powerful, and the process involves a lot of intricate machinery, like advanced circuits (FPGA chips), to ensure everything happens precisely. This makes it highly effective but also very complex and expensive.

China's Laser-Induced Discharge Plasma (LDP) Method

Now imagine instead of a flashlight, you use a simple spark between two wires

First, a small vapor cloud (tin) is released between the wires.

Then, a spark (high voltage) is applied, turning the vapor into a glowing cloud (plasma) that lights up the room (produces EUV light).

This method directly converts electricity into light, making it simpler and more energy-efficient.

However, it’s like trying to adjust the timing of the spark and the amount of vapor perfectly—it’s tricky to get just right. Additionally, some worry that this spark-based method might not be bright enough to light up a very large room (power output limitations).

Comparison

LPP (Flashlight on droplets): Complex, powerful, and precise but expensive and energy-intensive.

LDP (Spark in a vapor cloud): Simpler, cheaper, and more energy-efficient but technically challenging to optimize and potentially limited in brightness

等年底看看实际表现。 记住，这些科技成就，川建国有一半功劳。国家和人一样。有时候得逼一下。

这样华为2nM

快要成功了

villandry 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 10:03 厉害，Q3 试产，明年计划上市。

厉害华为，估计是它为主投资的新凯来公司和所有中国相关合作企业的杰作

这下ASML 傻眼

恭喜耗子不用去中国帮忙了

https://wccftech.com/china-in-house-euv ... n-q3-2025/

顶多一个原理性的样机，离实用还差着十万八千里了。其实真正还能凑合用的还是干式的DUV，这些宣传的目的无非是希望能解禁浸润式DUV而已。

datada 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 10:58 等年底看看实际表现。 记住，这些科技成就，川建国有一半功劳。国家和人一样。有时候得逼一下。

7年前川普第一任期开始制裁中国的科技，不惜毁了美国的信誉，是美国没落的元年。从此中国再不会相信美国所谓的供应链分工，任何产品中国都要自主。一个人口比你多，比你聪明刻苦的民族，美国人怎么都打不过的

好像不是上海微电子，而是华为投资的一家企业。

dearbornp 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 11:07 顶多一个原理性的样机，离实用还差着十万八千里了。其实真正还能凑合用的还是干式的DUV，这些宣传的目的无非是希望能解禁浸润式DUV而已。

鹿生人说的也有道理。可能是兔子阳谋。看看ASML会不会上当。

WCLBJ 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 11:10 好像不是上海微电子，而是华为投资的一家企业。

国企都是废物

提醒一下wccf是个很出名的假消息媒体，跟x上搬运新闻的特脑残一样，可信度极低

ɓuoɥɔɓuɐnɥ 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 11:12 提醒一下wccf是个很出名的假消息媒体，跟x上搬运新闻的特脑残一样，可信度极低

谣言的情绪价值是我们的良药

ɓuoɥɔɓuɐnɥ 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 11:12 提醒一下wccf是个很出名的假消息媒体，跟x上搬运新闻的特脑残一样，可信度极低

Chatgpt查了下wccf，说需要cross check。
Wccftech is a popular website covering technology, gaming, and hardware news. It is known for publishing leaks, rumors, and industry speculation alongside more traditional news and reviews. While it has a decent track record for reporting on tech trends, its reliance on leaks means that not all of its information is 100% reliable.

yokel 写了： 2025年 3月 10日 11:11 国企都是废物

也不能这样讲啊...
当初华为不断去上海微电子挖人...
上海微电子都告状告到国务院了. 把人都用高薪挖走了！