wanmeishijie 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 11:53 老蒋的问题是输了豫湘桂战役，在盟军眼里彻底丧失了统战价值。结果被逼割让了香港，新疆，琉球，外蒙和东北。本该占领巩固的西藏——缅甸那一块，也没占上。同时经济政治上签署了不平等条约，彻底成为了美国经济殖民地和政治跟班。与此同时，南洋的传统华人海外势力范围也丢了。人家英美开始扶持马来人了。其它所有小国独立后都得到了地盘，就民国反而丢了土地。
中共后来进西藏，分缅北，打朝战，写九评，搞香港历史文件，东南亚输出革命，从民族角度看，都属于是给老蒋的战败擦屁股。这一直到了越战和苏联解体才基本擦干净。到包叔这里，19年又给香港擦了个屁股。
就这，藏南和琉球还没收回来呢。
rihai 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 11:59 割个屁
蒋梅毒就被迫割了外蒙给鹅毛
煞笔才相信霉菌提出过琉球归蒋梅毒
倭杂投降后东北和新疆蒋梅毒都是实控，
如果非要说没有实控， 那也是毛匪在作乱， 东北和新疆的对手是毛匪， 不是八国联军
吨吨吨
"The President referred to the question of the Ryukyu Islands and enquired more than once whether China would want the Ryukyus." To this, Chiang reportedly replied that "China would be agreeable to joint occupation of the Ryukyus by China and the United States and, eventually, joint administration by the two countries under the trusteeship of an international organization." (See "Chinese Summary Record [translation] of Roosevelt-Chiang Dinner Meeting [November 23, 1943]," FRUS, The Conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943 [Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1961], p. 324.) Chiang, in his own notes, explained that he responded this way because he did not want the United States to think that China had territorial ambitions in mind, and thus sought to "put the U.S. (government) at ease." (See Chiang Kai-shek, Sho Kai Seki Hiroku 14 (Jihon Kofuku [Chiang Kai-shek's Secret Records Vol. 14 (Japan's Surrender), Tokyo: Sankei Shimbunsha , 1977), p. 122.)rihai 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 11:59 割个屁
蒋梅毒就被迫割了外蒙给鹅毛
煞笔才相信霉菌提出过琉球归蒋梅毒
倭杂投降后东北和新疆蒋梅毒都是实控，
如果非要说没有实控， 那也是毛匪在作乱， 东北和新疆的对手是毛匪， 不是八国联军
吨吨吨
xiaxia 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 12:07 "The President referred to the question of the Ryukyu Islands and enquired more than once whether China would want the Ryukyus." To this, Chiang reportedly replied that "China would be agreeable to joint occupation of the Ryukyus by China and the United States and, eventually, joint administration by the two countries under the trusteeship of an international organization." (See "Chinese Summary Record [translation] of Roosevelt-Chiang Dinner Meeting [November 23, 1943]," FRUS, The Conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943 [Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1961], p. 324.) Chiang, in his own notes, explained that he responded this way because he did not want the United States to think that China had territorial ambitions in mind, and thus sought to "put the U.S. (government) at ease." (See Chiang Kai-shek, Sho Kai Seki Hiroku 14 (Jihon Kofuku [Chiang Kai-shek's Secret Records Vol. 14 (Japan's Surrender), Tokyo: Sankei Shimbunsha , 1977), p. 122.)
缅甸呢？香港呢？本来出兵出力都占了。吐出来了吧？rihai 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 11:59 割个屁
蒋梅毒就被迫割了外蒙给鹅毛
煞笔才相信霉菌提出过琉球归蒋梅毒
倭杂投降后东北和新疆蒋梅毒都是实控，
如果非要说没有实控， 那也是毛匪在作乱， 东北和新疆的对手是毛匪， 不是八国联军
吨吨吨
梅毒是假装悲愤的南蛮子
wanmeishijie 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 12:12 缅甸呢？香港呢？本来出兵出力都占了。吐出来了吧？
东北你问过苏联红军没有就实控？
你打输了于湘桂，被迫把东北交给苏军了。另外别说什么老毛作乱，老毛当时的根基是在日占的北方，鸟不拉屎。你连中原和桦南都丢了怪不得老毛
wanmeishijie 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 12:12 缅甸呢？香港呢？本来出兵出力都占了。吐出来了吧？
东北你问过苏联红军没有就实控？
你打输了于湘桂，被迫把东北交给苏军了。另外别说什么老毛作乱，老毛当时的根基是在日占的北方，鸟不拉屎。你连中原和桦南都丢了怪不得老毛
Why Roosevelt made Chiang this offer, despite himself having announced the principles of the Atlantic Charter of not taking the spoils of war, is an interesting question. It does in any case reveal his unilateral, top-down style of decision-making by not consulting with nor relying on the State Department's territorial studies with near disastrous results. One explanation of Roosevelt's approach to Chiang regarding the disposition of the Ryukyu Islands seems to be that he may have actually believed China wanted the Ryukyu Islands. Indeed, as the Chinese summary record shows, their conversation was conducted in the context of the "restoration of territories." Roosevelt, the evidence suggests, was aware of China's various claims to the Ryukyu Islands, mostly seen in editorials in the nationalistic press, but also seen in comments by Foreign Minister T. V. Soong, the older brother of Chiang's wife, all of which, while inconsistent in nature, had been reported by U.S. Embassy officials in China, and had received coverage in the international and U.S. press.rihai 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 12:11 笑死叔了
你老板私下问你，你想不想要它的办公室， 你丫就真信了？
蒋梅毒要求共治是对的， 最佳回复
结果呢， 霉菌连共治都没同意， 根本就是逗你玩
蒋梅毒看的很清楚
LOL
xiaxia 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 12:23 Why Roosevelt made Chiang this offer, despite himself having announced the principles of the Atlantic Charter of not taking the spoils of war, is an interesting question. It does in any case reveal his unilateral, top-down style of decision-making by not consulting with nor relying on the State Department's territorial studies with near disastrous results. One explanation of Roosevelt's approach to Chiang regarding the disposition of the Ryukyu Islands seems to be that he may have actually believed China wanted the Ryukyu Islands. Indeed, as the Chinese summary record shows, their conversation was conducted in the context of the "restoration of territories." Roosevelt, the evidence suggests, was aware of China's various claims to the Ryukyu Islands, mostly seen in editorials in the nationalistic press, but also seen in comments by Foreign Minister T. V. Soong, the older brother of Chiang's wife, all of which, while inconsistent in nature, had been reported by U.S. Embassy officials in China, and had received coverage in the international and U.S. press.
Soong, at his first official press conference as Foreign Minister on November 3, 1942, publicly called for the recovery of the Ryukyu Islands (as well as Manchuria and Formosa).("The Ambassador in China to the Secretary of State (November 5, 1942)," FRUS, 1942, p. 174.) So we see that it was not only vocal semi-official newspapers but government spokesmen that expressed the desire to see the Ryukyu islands "restored" to China. (Years later these claims would still be heard. The controversy regarding Chiang Kai-shek's book, China's Destiny, where a phrase relating to the Ryukyu Islands was later hastily added in the second edition, is well-known. Regarding China's views on an early peace treaty with Japan, and if I remember correctly, territorial claims, see Chang Hsia-hai, "The Treaty with Japan: A Chinese View," Foreign Affairs, Vol. 26, No. 3 [April 1948], pp. 505-514.) It was with this belief, perhaps, that Roosevelt asked Chiang about the Liuchiu Islands. Had Roosevelt actually bothered to read the State Department memorandums on Okinawa's territorial status, he would have known that Chinese control was not considered a viable option for the disposition of the Ryukyu Islands.
Roosevelt may have had other reasons for asking Chiang as well. Roosevelt's approach suggests his method of dealing sternly and strictly with enemy states, as the call for "unconditional surrender" would suggest, while at the same time raising the status of the Allied countries, particularly China, as Japanese historian Iokibe Makoto suggests. (Iokibe Makoto, "Kairo Sengen to Nihon no Ryodo [The Cairo Declaration and Japanese Territory]," Hiroshima Hogaku [The Hiroshima University Law Review], Vol. 4, Nos. 3-4 (March 1981), p. 127. Iokibe's article later formed a large part of Chapter 4 in his award-winning 1985 book, Beikoku no Nihon Senryo Seisaku [U.S. Occupation Policy for Japan], Tokyo: Chuo Koron, 1985.) Roosevelt may have been trying to strengthen China's confidence by showing Chiang that he considered China to be one of the Four Great Powers, one of the "Four Policemen" that Roosevelt was hoping would guarantee the security in the postwar world. Indeed their very meeting was representative of this belief. In that sense, Roosevelt, never a fan of Japan, may have been hoping for Chiang's help in limiting Japan's regional power and territorial size and hoped that the transfer of the Ryukyu Islands to Chinese control would contribute to that goal. Roosevelt likely as well was seeking to punish Japan, mistakenly believing that the Ryukyu Islands were taken or stolen from China by Japan, and thus felt that stripping the islands from Japan would be justified and not subject to his own Atlantic Charter.
The final version of the Cairo Declaration, issued on November 27 by the three leaders, strongly suggests this latter possibility. It reads:
The Three Great Allies are fighting this war to restrain and punish the aggression of Japan. They covet no gain for themselves and have no thought of territorial expansion. It is their purpose that Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914, and that all territories, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and the Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China. Japan will also be expelled from all other territories which she has taken by violence and greed. The aforesaid three great powers, mindful of the enslavement of the people of Korea, are determined that in due course Korea shall become free and independent.
过了这村，就没这店啦
【香港是条约， 条约没到期，抢个鸡巴。。。。。】rihai 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 12:16 在东北鹅毛把武器和投降的鬼子交给毛匪就退出了
蒋梅毒因此控制了东北的大城市
麻痹的鹅毛要是不撤， 蒋梅毒靠啥占领东北大城市？
LOL
香港是条约， 条约没到期，抢个鸡巴
蒋梅毒可从来没宣布对战胜国也废除前朝全部条约
毛产逼恰恰屁眼里宣布了废除前朝全部条约，实际上则不仅没有废除， 还出卖了大量新的国土
LOL
如果不是输掉于湘桂，美国可能会大规模武装国军北伐东三省，不至于签署雅尔塔协定这个卖国协议把苏联放进来。ridgway 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 12:17 国军没占缅甸和香港。东北按照雅尔塔协议是要交给国军的，苏联至少明面上也这样做了，只是暗地里扶持八路。苏联害怕如果明面上不把东北交给国军，美国可以在其他雅尔塔协议的条款里毁约。
没办法，老毛给梅毒擦屁股，擦不掉啊。老毛能擦掉东北和新疆两个屁股，也算了得了。
xiaxia 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 13:05 过了这村，就没这店啦
开罗会议是1943年，前文里说了，当时螺丝粉还是想把蒋介石当成战后，亚洲的一个重要力量来扶持的
我们都知道后来发生的事啦
豫湘桂溃败，还有史迪威事件，让罗斯福对蒋政府失去啦信心，转而求助斯大林来结束对日战争
后来的杜鲁门有了原子弹，底气就更足了，不需要蒋政府了
当然没必要给蒋政府任何脸色
可以看看欧洲
东普鲁士，整个画给了斯大林
波兰，东边割了一半给斯大林，整个国土向西平移，割走了德国的东部
笑死你爹老。毛在陕北，如何去新疆东北作乱？蒋介石参与全球战争，对手当然是美苏日德英法，你毫无常识。
你该睡觉了，这么晚不睡觉翻墙累不累啊wanmeishijie 写了： 2025年 7月 26日 13:24 笑死你爹老。毛在陕北，如何去新疆东北作乱？蒋介石参与全球战争，对手当然是美苏日德英法，你毫无常识。
顺便给你扫个盲。1943年前后梅毒试图策动印度独立的