Escape plugin 这么抢手？？

[wind]

附近的dealer给我回的信：

I am sorry to say that we do not have any Plug-In Hybrids in inventory. All Escapes currently in inventory are all Gas Models

We were very fortunate and got 4 in and they were all sold within 2 days of being here. The other unfortunate news I have to share, is although we can still submit Retail Factory Orders for the 2023 model year Escapes. We are limited to the non Plug-In Hybrid & Gas Models only. Ford is not taking any more orders for the Plug-in Hybrid as they have Balanced out for the 2023 Model year. Meaning they do not have the components available to continue taking orders for either Retail or Stock Units in the Plug-In Model. The window for ordering a Plug-In was very limited and only open for about 3 weeks.

We have not yet received any information as to when ordering for the 2024 Model year will re-open. To provide some insight as to how long it would take if I could place an order, would be to share with you, that I have a customer that placed an order for a Plug-In on Oct 17,2022 and as, yet we still do not have a production date. We are hoping to see it sometime late Spring to early summer.

[wildthing]

附近的dealer给我回的信：

I am sorry to say that we do not have any Plug-In Hybrids in inventory. All Escapes currently in inventory are all Gas Models

We were very fortunate and got 4 in and they were all sold within 2 days of being here. The other unfortunate news I have to share, is although we can still submit Retail Factory Orders for the 2023 model year Escapes. We are limited to the non Plug-In Hybrid & Gas Models only. Ford is not taking any more orders for the Plug-in Hybrid as they have Balanced out for the 2023 Model year. Meaning they do not have the components available to continue taking orders for either Retail or Stock Units in the Plug-In Model. The window for ordering a Plug-In was very limited and only open for about 3 weeks.

We have not yet received any information as to when ordering for the 2024 Model year will re-open. To provide some insight as to how long it would take if I could place an order, would be to share with you, that I have a customer that placed an order for a Plug-In on Oct 17,2022 and as, yet we still do not have a production date. We are hoping to see it sometime late Spring to early summer.

Butt ugly car.

Just get a gas car. Don't think it is great to sit on top a bunch of lithium.

[wind]

I know. But PHEV works perfectly for me. Most activities are within 20 miles or so. Only during weekends, we may need to go a bit further, but under 100 miles most of the times.

[iMaJia]

感覺各廠家都嚴重低估電車市場的需求

[wildthing]

I know. But PHEV works perfectly for me. Most activities are within 20 miles or so. Only during weekends, we may need to go a bit further, but under 100 miles most of the times.

Why? You pay upfront for the savings of the next 10 years. I don't get it. To save money? This is a losing proposition.

To save environment? Battery manufacturing creates so much pollution upfront, you can never get it back by using less gas.

[gjq]

不是抢手，是根本造不出来
不过现在福特根本就不公布phev销量了。但是一月所有escape销量只有7878辆，去年所有混动加起来不到escape的20%，插混可能只有混动的20%

[wildthing]

不是抢手，是根本造不出来
不过现在福特根本就不公布phev销量了。但是一月所有escape销量只有7878辆，去年所有混动加起来不到escape的20%，插混可能只有混动的20%

也许是不挣钱。卖一辆亏一辆。买的越多亏的越多。于是不干了。 就是做个样子給政府看看。好拿补贴。

[gjq]

感覺各廠家都嚴重低估電車市場的需求

不是低估，而是成本下不来。另外补贴政策变化太快，跟不上。
3月份含中量高的电车退补（退税降到3750），加上油价下来了，电车马上就要滞销了。

美国的电车已经太贵了。bz4x中国大电池版只要16万，去掉增值税才13.8万（2万美元），美国要43335美元。中国还有小电池版只要13万。含中量为零的车价格太贵了，

[gjq]

也许是不挣钱。卖一辆亏一辆。买的越多亏的越多。于是不干了。 就是做个样子給政府看看。好拿补贴。

补贴是按销量算的，其实做不了样子。但是可以做样子抵碳税，可能还可以拉低出厂车辆平均油耗（这个有硬标准，但是达标就行了，没必要比标准低）

当然关键还是设计不上心。我的CMax就是，很多方面不错（主要一是丰田授权的混动系统，二是福特堆配置的能力），但是很多关键的地方让人非常不舒服。电池把后备箱基本吃掉

[gjq]

现在电车抢手主要是因为1-2月所有美国（北美？）组装的电车都有7500补贴，3月以后关于电池含中量的细则出台，大多数车就没有7500了，而是3750. 所以现在根本买不到

我去年12月定的bolt EUV，前天dealer张冠李戴告诉我可以提车，白高兴了一天。昨天打回去问，是另一个人11月定的。我的还没组装呢

[jessy2017]

不是低估，而是成本下不来。另外补贴政策变化太快，跟不上。
3月份含中量高的电车退补（退税降到3750），加上油价下来了，电车马上就要滞销了。

美国的电车已经太贵了。bz4x中国大电池版只要16万，去掉增值税才13.8万（2万美元），美国要43335美元。中国还有小电池版只要13万。含中量为零的车价格太贵了，

是啊， 中国的插混 也卖得太便宜了。 比亚迪 新出的秦 DMI 插混 也就卖10万人民币。

其实就是一个11度电 磷酸铁锂的电池挂在底盘。 以后底盘上挂电池必须是标配！

[wildthing]

现在电车抢手主要是因为1-2月所有美国（北美？）组装的电车都有7500补贴，3月以后关于电池含中量的细则出台，大多数车就没有7500了，而是3750. 所以现在根本买不到

我去年12月定的bolt EUV，前天dealer张冠李戴告诉我可以提车，白高兴了一天。昨天打回去问，是另一个人11月定的。我的还没组装呢

Bolt也是好丑
不过萝卜青菜各有所爱，我觉得丑你觉得帅 ：）

[gjq]

Bolt也是好丑
不过萝卜青菜各有所爱，我觉得丑你觉得帅 ：）

其实大多数电车都是这样。美国市场纯电车好看的不多，不管是特斯拉还在丰田验证码还是ioniq 5/6或者leaf,都丑（个别的丑可以用个性来形容，另外一些是连个性都没有的丑）

相比之下bolt EUV和验证码还算过得去的。

忒惨很多人觉得还可以，但是要不是保时捷的标，觉得好看的人也会打折扣

[wind]

这个网站系统不行？回复居然不见了。