（转载）马斯克过河拆桥

[geniushanbiao]

此帖转自 geniushanbiao 在 美国新闻（USA News） 的帖子：马斯克过河拆桥

https://www.jalopnik.com/1843586/elon-m ... uts-tesla/

这个loan office之前是他能搞起来特斯拉的关键，现在他把特斯拉搞起来了就把这个office关了这样别人再想搞个类似的就没办法了。真是个人渣，典型的过河拆桥。

[Fighz]

只是裁员 没说关门啊

[geniushanbiao]

只是裁员 没说关门啊

把人都裁没了和关门有啥区别？都没人给process loan了

[geniushanbiao]

丫就是怕竞争，怕有人通过同样的政府补贴扶植发展起来然后可以和他竞争，妥妥的利己。有些人还说他什么鸿鹄之志，我呸！

[ccmath]

纽约可能取消特斯拉规避dealer law的exception. 要是通过了，大概一堆蓝州跟进。



New York Moves to Shutter Tesla Dealerships in Blow to Musk


Lawmakers in New York state are moving to shut down Elon Musk’s Tesla dealerships in yet another blow to the billionaire CEO.

New York State Sen. Patricia Fahy and other lawmakers are fighting to remove a waiver that allows Tesla to operate five in-person dealerships in New York, instead forcing the company to sell their vehicles through dealer franchises, The New York Times reported Sunday.

“No matter what we do, we’ve got to take this from Elon Musk,” Fahy said in March when she first introduced the bill against Tesla. “He’s part of an effort to go backwards.”

Fahy was a champion of electric vehicle companies like Tesla opening in-person dealerships in New York, saying that an increase in EV sales would help cut emissions in the state.

She now joins a growing number of Democratic officials and legislators who have drastically changed their tune on Tesla following the 2025 election, when Musk joined forces with Trump.

“Why should we give them a monopoly?” she asked regarding Tesla, adding that this bill was her “making amends” with her previous support of the company.

Musk responded to Fahy’s efforts to shut his company’s dealerships down in a now-deleted social media post in March, saying that it was “improper for lawmakers to target a single person or company.”

In the last few months, Tesla dealerships and cars have been vandalized or set on fire, its sales have dipped, and its profit dropped by 71 percent in the first three months of 2025.

Fahy herself joined a protest in Colonie, New York, in early April to oppose Tesla’s plan to open a 30,000-square-foot showroom and charging area.

“The bottom line is, Tesla has lost their right to promote these when they’re part of an administration that wants to go backwards,” Fahy said. “Elon Musk was handed a privilege here.”

The bill is now in the hands of the Senate and Assembly finance committees and will be considered once a budget agreement is reached.

A spokesperson for New York Governor Kathy Hochul said that if the bill passed both of the Legislature’s chambers, she would review it.

此帖转自 geniushanbiao 在 美国新闻（USA News） 的帖子：马斯克过河拆桥

https://www.jalopnik.com/1843586/elon-m ... uts-tesla/

这个loan office之前是他能搞起来特斯拉的关键，现在他把特斯拉搞起来了就把这个office关了这样别人再想搞个类似的就没办法了。真是个人渣，典型的过河拆桥。

[ignius]

裁员不等于关门。老马把twitter裁了80%，X现在不是好好的嘛？左臂造谣

此帖转自 geniushanbiao 在 美国新闻（USA News） 的帖子：马斯克过河拆桥

https://www.jalopnik.com/1843586/elon-m ... uts-tesla/

这个loan office之前是他能搞起来特斯拉的关键，现在他把特斯拉搞起来了就把这个office关了这样别人再想搞个类似的就没办法了。真是个人渣，典型的过河拆桥。

[ignius]

左臂政客自己打脸，左棍们跟着叫好

纽约可能取消特斯拉规避dealer law的exception. 要是通过了，大概一堆蓝州跟进。



New York Moves to Shutter Tesla Dealerships in Blow to Musk


Lawmakers in New York state are moving to shut down Elon Musk’s Tesla dealerships in yet another blow to the billionaire CEO.

New York State Sen. Patricia Fahy and other lawmakers are fighting to remove a waiver that allows Tesla to operate five in-person dealerships in New York, instead forcing the company to sell their vehicles through dealer franchises, The New York Times reported Sunday.

“No matter what we do, we’ve got to take this from Elon Musk,” Fahy said in March when she first introduced the bill against Tesla. “He’s part of an effort to go backwards.”

Fahy was a champion of electric vehicle companies like Tesla opening in-person dealerships in New York, saying that an increase in EV sales would help cut emissions in the state.

She now joins a growing number of Democratic officials and legislators who have drastically changed their tune on Tesla following the 2025 election, when Musk joined forces with Trump.

“Why should we give them a monopoly?” she asked regarding Tesla, adding that this bill was her “making amends” with her previous support of the company.

Musk responded to Fahy’s efforts to shut his company’s dealerships down in a now-deleted social media post in March, saying that it was “improper for lawmakers to target a single person or company.”

In the last few months, Tesla dealerships and cars have been vandalized or set on fire, its sales have dipped, and its profit dropped by 71 percent in the first three months of 2025.

Fahy herself joined a protest in Colonie, New York, in early April to oppose Tesla’s plan to open a 30,000-square-foot showroom and charging area.

“The bottom line is, Tesla has lost their right to promote these when they’re part of an administration that wants to go backwards,” Fahy said. “Elon Musk was handed a privilege here.”

The bill is now in the hands of the Senate and Assembly finance committees and will be considered once a budget agreement is reached.

A spokesperson for New York Governor Kathy Hochul said that if the bill passed both of the Legislature’s chambers, she would review it.

[ignius]

老马最不怕竞争了。否则为啥会把超充对其他厂家开放。中国电车兴起全靠老马。弱智才会认为老马怕竞争。

丫就是怕竞争，怕有人通过同样的政府补贴扶植发展起来然后可以和他竞争，妥妥的利己。有些人还说他什么鸿鹄之志，我呸！

[geniushanbiao]

裁员不等于关门。老马把twitter裁了80%，X现在不是好好的嘛？左臂造谣

你又来把公司和政府等同。给twitter裁80%和给政府部门裁80%的结果是完全不一样的。

给twitter裁80%，只需要把那些不赚钱和相对不太赚钱的项目砍掉，只保留最赚钱的20%就够了，对公司的运营没啥影响，反而因为甩掉那些不赚钱的包袱公司的财政会更好。这一点你如果干公司的应该很了解我就不多说了。

可是你给政府部门裁80%呢？结果就完全不一样了。你可以反过来想这个问题，如果政府必须裁掉80%的人，那么它要怎么办呢？
1 首先可以把一些和监管不直接相关的项目砍掉，这些并不会短时间内影响政府运营，但是这是竭泽而渔杀鸡取卵。政府的很多长效运作是靠一些内部的长期跟踪的科研项目支撑的，比如农林的那些对野生动物的跟踪，气象上对各种气候现象的跟踪，以及水利、健康等等领域的那些科研。长期眼光看这么做绝对得不偿失。
2 把政府的一些培养年轻人的项目砍掉。比如你知道ORISE是什么么？这次马斯克乱搞就砍掉了很大部分的ORISE的培养项目。这又是一个短期内看不出多大负面效应的动作，但是过个5年10年的这方面人才就会出现断代，到时候问题就会显现出来。
3 再就是裁一些底层办事的人。这一步直观的一个感受就是政府审批项目变慢了。道理很简单，申请还是那么多，每个申请审批的步骤还是不变不能因为人手少了就简化必要的步骤，本来10个人干活的变成5个人了那么审批时间就会加倍。

具体到这件事，你把这个审贷款的部门裁个80%，直接让申请这个loan的审批从以前的几星期变成了几年的周期。你马斯克以前申请这个loan的时候几星期就批下来了，现在一个人去申请要等几年，黄花菜都凉了。这不是避免竞争是什么？现在搞这种大型的项目基本都需要政府的一些扶植，马斯克这么整政府摆明了就是不想让别人分这杯羹。

[geniushanbiao]

老马最不怕竞争了。否则为啥会把超充对其他厂家开放。中国电车兴起全靠老马。弱智才会认为老马怕竞争。

扯JB蛋吧

[altopalo]

老马最不怕竞争了。否则为啥会把超充对其他厂家开放。中国电车兴起全靠老马。弱智才会认为老马怕竞争。

此一时彼一时，一龙最近跳票的事情越来越多。
明显嗑药嗑出抗药性了

[mmking]

老马效率部的成就主要靠杀鸡取卵

你又来把公司和政府等同。给twitter裁80%和给政府部门裁80%的结果是完全不一样的。

给twitter裁80%，只需要把那些不赚钱和相对不太赚钱的项目砍掉，只保留最赚钱的20%就够了，对公司的运营没啥影响，反而因为甩掉那些不赚钱的包袱公司的财政会更好。这一点你如果干公司的应该很了解我就不多说了。

可是你给政府部门裁80%呢？结果就完全不一样了。你可以反过来想这个问题，如果政府必须裁掉80%的人，那么它要怎么办呢？
1 首先可以把一些和监管不直接相关的项目砍掉，这些并不会短时间内影响政府运营，但是这是竭泽而渔杀鸡取卵。政府的很多长效运作是靠一些内部的长期跟踪的科研项目支撑的，比如农林的那些对野生动物的跟踪，气象上对各种气候现象的跟踪，以及水利、健康等等领域的那些科研。长期眼光看这么做绝对得不偿失。
2 把政府的一些培养年轻人的项目砍掉。比如你知道ORISE是什么么？这次马斯克乱搞就砍掉了很大部分的ORISE的培养项目。这又是一个短期内看不出多大负面效应的动作，但是过个5年10年的这方面人才就会出现断代，到时候问题就会显现出来。
3 再就是裁一些底层办事的人。这一步直观的一个感受就是政府审批项目变慢了。道理很简单，申请还是那么多，每个申请审批的步骤还是不变不能因为人手少了就简化必要的步骤，本来10个人干活的变成5个人了那么审批时间就会加倍。

具体到这件事，你把这个审贷款的部门裁个80%，直接让申请这个loan的审批从以前的几星期变成了几年的周期。你马斯克以前申请这个loan的时候几星期就批下来了，现在一个人去申请要等几年，黄花菜都凉了。这不是避免竞争是什么？现在搞这种大型的项目基本都需要政府的一些扶植，马斯克这么整政府摆明了就是不想让别人分这杯羹。

[ignius]

瞎扯jb蛋。批准个loan还需要多少人？政府部门一项效率低下，很多人更是work from home不干活光拿钱。克林顿裁了40万政府员工，也没看政府部门就不能运作了。你现在完全相信左臂的洗脑了，整个成一个傻逼了

你又来把公司和政府等同。给twitter裁80%和给政府部门裁80%的结果是完全不一样的。

给twitter裁80%，只需要把那些不赚钱和相对不太赚钱的项目砍掉，只保留最赚钱的20%就够了，对公司的运营没啥影响，反而因为甩掉那些不赚钱的包袱公司的财政会更好。这一点你如果干公司的应该很了解我就不多说了。

可是你给政府部门裁80%呢？结果就完全不一样了。你可以反过来想这个问题，如果政府必须裁掉80%的人，那么它要怎么办呢？
1 首先可以把一些和监管不直接相关的项目砍掉，这些并不会短时间内影响政府运营，但是这是竭泽而渔杀鸡取卵。政府的很多长效运作是靠一些内部的长期跟踪的科研项目支撑的，比如农林的那些对野生动物的跟踪，气象上对各种气候现象的跟踪，以及水利、健康等等领域的那些科研。长期眼光看这么做绝对得不偿失。
2 把政府的一些培养年轻人的项目砍掉。比如你知道ORISE是什么么？这次马斯克乱搞就砍掉了很大部分的ORISE的培养项目。这又是一个短期内看不出多大负面效应的动作，但是过个5年10年的这方面人才就会出现断代，到时候问题就会显现出来。
3 再就是裁一些底层办事的人。这一步直观的一个感受就是政府审批项目变慢了。道理很简单，申请还是那么多，每个申请审批的步骤还是不变不能因为人手少了就简化必要的步骤，本来10个人干活的变成5个人了那么审批时间就会加倍。

具体到这件事，你把这个审贷款的部门裁个80%，直接让申请这个loan的审批从以前的几星期变成了几年的周期。你马斯克以前申请这个loan的时候几星期就批下来了，现在一个人去申请要等几年，黄花菜都凉了。这不是避免竞争是什么？现在搞这种大型的项目基本都需要政府的一些扶植，马斯克这么整政府摆明了就是不想让别人分这杯羹。

[ignius]

你就是屁股坐歪了。一龙没变，是你变了。

此一时彼一时，一龙最近跳票的事情越来越多。
明显嗑药嗑出抗药性了

[altopalo]

你就是屁股坐歪了。一龙没变，是你变了。

一龙都变了，你屁股还不动，人都歪了。

[ignius]

闹半天，loan office的layoff都是员工自愿走的。看下面这段话的最后一句。弱智才相信左媒的洗脑。



More than 3,500 staffers are preparing to leave the Energy Department in coming days, gutting offices tasked with doling out billions of dollars tied to the climate and bipartisan infrastructure laws, according to career staffers granted anonymity to speak freely. Roughly 77 percent of workers at the Office of Clean Energy Demonstrations, or OCED, took an offer to leave voluntarily, according to a person familiar with internal operations. POLITICO's E&E News previously reported that more than 3,200 DOE staffers opted to take the Trump administration's offer for a deferred resignation, a figure that the agency has yet to confirm. DOE at the time said workers could resign now and get paid until the end of the fiscal year. They've also been told to gird for possible “restructuring,” and deeper cuts are likely on the horizon as DOE complies with the administration's push to shrink the federal footprint. The person granted anonymity said that about 70 percent at the Grid Deployment Office took the offer, while about 66 percent of the workforce in the Office of State and Community Energy Programs is leaving early. The same deep departures are hitting DOE's Office of Manufacturing and Energy Supply Chains, or MESC, which works to bolster U.S. energy manufacturing deployment and supply chain security. More than 50 percent of MESC's workforce opted to quit, they said. In addition, 50 percent of the staff in DOE's Loan Programs Office opted to leave, according to a career staffer.

[Arrow]

这个是报复了马斯克，但买车的也吃亏，dealership将有更多吸血的管子。我猜是拿了dealership好处的人的提案。

纽约可能取消特斯拉规避dealer law的exception. 要是通过了，大概一堆蓝州跟进。



New York Moves to Shutter Tesla Dealerships in Blow to Musk


Lawmakers in New York state are moving to shut down Elon Musk’s Tesla dealerships in yet another blow to the billionaire CEO.

New York State Sen. Patricia Fahy and other lawmakers are fighting to remove a waiver that allows Tesla to operate five in-person dealerships in New York, instead forcing the company to sell their vehicles through dealer franchises, The New York Times reported Sunday.

“No matter what we do, we’ve got to take this from Elon Musk,” Fahy said in March when she first introduced the bill against Tesla. “He’s part of an effort to go backwards.”

Fahy was a champion of electric vehicle companies like Tesla opening in-person dealerships in New York, saying that an increase in EV sales would help cut emissions in the state.

She now joins a growing number of Democratic officials and legislators who have drastically changed their tune on Tesla following the 2025 election, when Musk joined forces with Trump.

“Why should we give them a monopoly?” she asked regarding Tesla, adding that this bill was her “making amends” with her previous support of the company.

Musk responded to Fahy’s efforts to shut his company’s dealerships down in a now-deleted social media post in March, saying that it was “improper for lawmakers to target a single person or company.”

In the last few months, Tesla dealerships and cars have been vandalized or set on fire, its sales have dipped, and its profit dropped by 71 percent in the first three months of 2025.

Fahy herself joined a protest in Colonie, New York, in early April to oppose Tesla’s plan to open a 30,000-square-foot showroom and charging area.

“The bottom line is, Tesla has lost their right to promote these when they’re part of an administration that wants to go backwards,” Fahy said. “Elon Musk was handed a privilege here.”

The bill is now in the hands of the Senate and Assembly finance committees and will be considered once a budget agreement is reached.

A spokesperson for New York Governor Kathy Hochul said that if the bill passed both of the Legislature’s chambers, she would review it.

[ignius]

而且当初tesla是通过这个program拿的loan，atvm，adanced technology vehicle manufacturing. 现在每年才40个application, 每个月还不到4个。这个他妈需要多少人来批？

doe的loan office program裁员影响最大的是nuclear projects。这个ATVM的申请相比之下根本是九牛一毛。尼玛左臂媒体洗脑傻逼们就信了。

While the range of advanced ATVs and qualifying components projects may broaden under the amendments under this direct final rule, DOE anticipates receiving the previously estimated 40 annual applications to the ATVM Program across all vehicle categories, resulting in the same estimated $1,083,000 combined annual cost.

[geniushanbiao]

瞎扯jb蛋。批准个loan还需要多少人？政府部门一项效率低下，很多人更是work from home不干活光拿钱。克林顿裁了40万政府员工，也没看政府部门就不能运作了。你现在完全相信左臂的洗脑了，整个成一个傻逼了

正因为你不懂，所以显得你无知。批loan有很多审批程序的，不是你跑去说我要创业人家就会给你loan。毕竟纳税人的钱也不是大风刮来的，政府要对这钱负责，不能什么人都乱给。我干过这个所以懂，你没干过就闭嘴吧。

[geniushanbiao]

而且当初tesla是通过这个program拿的loan，atvm，adanced technology vehicle manufacturing. 现在每年才40个application, 每个月还不到4个。这个他妈需要多少人来批？

doe的loan office program裁员影响最大的是nuclear projects。这个ATVM的申请相比之下根本是九牛一毛。尼玛左臂媒体洗脑傻逼们就信了。

While the range of advanced ATVs and qualifying components projects may broaden under the amendments under this direct final rule, DOE anticipates receiving the previously estimated 40 annual applications to the ATVM Program across all vehicle categories, resulting in the same estimated $1,083,000 combined annual cost.

废话，审批这个需要很多工作的，不然什么人跑去大嘴一张就给钱吗？你自己无知就闭嘴吧。